Faith: Oh, What the Heck . . .
I started out by replying to Liara, Misti, Pauline, and Vishesh on the previous post’s comments thread but it got so long – it’s a post. So here it is:
Thanks . . .
Thanks for your perceptive comments and questions. In a way my whole book is about faith and one chapter is entirely given over to this topic.
However, after doing those recent posts on love, my feeling is that if it's possible to transcribe book chapters into blog posts, I don't know how. So I think my upcoming posts will be additional short faith "sayings" - hopefully a more blogger-friendly approach than trying to excerpt/adapt sections of the book.
Meanwhile . . . here are a few things to think about concerning faith from my reply-turned-blog post:
What exactly is an experience of faith? When have you felt it most powerfully?
This might help answer Pauline's question about what it is that we have faith in.
Vishesh: I think you're probably right about that - that faith in some sense animates us, that perhaps even people who consider themselves faithless aren't so much faithless as unaware of their faith.
But as to faith in myself or any other person or even the entire species - I know for sure that's not where my faith resides. On a personal level, my body is faltering and failing in ways I never could have imagined. At the same time, one of the people I’ve been closest to is simultaneously declining in a different way – probably Alzheimer's.
When I look at us as a species, I don't feel hopeless but neither do I feel convinced we're going make a long-term go of it. We're clearly "dysfunctional" and I wouldn't want to try to predict what kind of shape we'll be in a century or two or three from now . . .
Of course, by "faith in ourselves" you may have just meant "self confidence" - but that would be a different thing to my mind than faith. Self confidence, even when it's very great, is limited in ways that faith isn't - for example, by the recognition of our own mortality and fallibility.
Thanks . . .
Thanks for your perceptive comments and questions. In a way my whole book is about faith and one chapter is entirely given over to this topic.
However, after doing those recent posts on love, my feeling is that if it's possible to transcribe book chapters into blog posts, I don't know how. So I think my upcoming posts will be additional short faith "sayings" - hopefully a more blogger-friendly approach than trying to excerpt/adapt sections of the book.
Meanwhile . . . here are a few things to think about concerning faith from my reply-turned-blog post:
What exactly is an experience of faith? When have you felt it most powerfully?
This might help answer Pauline's question about what it is that we have faith in.
Vishesh: I think you're probably right about that - that faith in some sense animates us, that perhaps even people who consider themselves faithless aren't so much faithless as unaware of their faith.
But as to faith in myself or any other person or even the entire species - I know for sure that's not where my faith resides. On a personal level, my body is faltering and failing in ways I never could have imagined. At the same time, one of the people I’ve been closest to is simultaneously declining in a different way – probably Alzheimer's.
When I look at us as a species, I don't feel hopeless but neither do I feel convinced we're going make a long-term go of it. We're clearly "dysfunctional" and I wouldn't want to try to predict what kind of shape we'll be in a century or two or three from now . . .
Of course, by "faith in ourselves" you may have just meant "self confidence" - but that would be a different thing to my mind than faith. Self confidence, even when it's very great, is limited in ways that faith isn't - for example, by the recognition of our own mortality and fallibility.








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I haven't started your book yet, but am excited to do so soon. Just finishing up some others that must go back to the local library before we get on the road and head north to MI.
Just a little food for thought here. My grandmother had the Serenity Prayer front and center in her house. She was a devoted Methodist with mammoth faith. This prayer, ever-present, never failed to remind me of the nature of faith...Believing, that we could not do it all ourselves, and how, through a co-creative effort with the Sacred, we would ultimately arrive at a deeper understanding of the peace and serenity we longed for. Blessings all around...
In the meantime they are targetting the 18 million children in that country to become martyrs. A cleric said that the West is soft and that they will lose this war because they are too concerned with the temporal world.
The cleric said that there is nothing wrong with teaching (brainwashing) boys to die for their Faith..it is an honor! He believes that the West does not stand a chance.
The scary thing is that he is probably right. They will eventually win this ideological war and the Westerners will leave that part of the world altogether..
atleast once the Oil runs out.
If you happened to have read any good poetry where faith comes up, that might point you in the direction I'm referring to - for example, the poets and essayists of 19th century Brit Lit like Wordsworth, Thomas Carlyle, Matthew Arnold, Tennyson...
Religious contemplatives as well as poets tend to point to faith as lived human experience. For example, if you Google Theodore Roethke and The Waking you'll find a short poem by a monk that's about faith and without doctrinal reference.
Faith and adherence to doctrine are often used synonymously but it ain't necessarily so...
am sorry. but here I am.
I havent the ability to distinguish between beief and faith. I don't think I have much faith.
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